trevorhayden
Active Member
Edmonton and Calgary fighting each other, as opposed to fighting the UCP: just as Danielle Smith and Jason Kenney intended.
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MacLac
Senior Member
I know Puneeta commented on his LinkedIn with the crux of “shut the fuck up, that’s not how it works….fucktard…..”
kcantor
Senior Member
Just like our Premier knows what she’s doing - avoiding responsibilities by blaming others. Whether it’s Ottawa or Edmonton doesn’t matter, it says more about the blamer that the city. In both cases it’s not literal but a lazy way to reference a senior level of government that ignores the fact that government “sits there” but is still the representative government of the entire province/country including the blamer’s jurisdiction.
Gronk!
Senior Member
The price of oil shot up to around $91 since the recent conflict in Iran.
Airboy
Senior Member
Y
up gas was 149 this morning Up almost 20c in a week. Yet the Rack price was still down. There should at least be a 2 week lag for our prices to go up.
The_Cat
Senior Member
Danielle Smith will blame the increase on Carney!
Gronk!
Senior Member
No she won't. She will blame Trudeau.
The_Cat
Senior Member
Oil to the rescue:
David A
Senior Member
Higher now than when we still had the carbon tax around a year ago!
The_Cat
Senior Member
The UCP announced a useful highway project, twinning the rest of Highway 63 between Lac La Biche and Edmonton.
TAS
Senior Member
Farkas' recent posts referencing Edmonton were triggering for people in our city. So I ended up reading the comments from other instagram posts he has made on the education property tax about Calgary paying more to 'Edmonton' or taxpayers in that city paying more than here (he's made a few).
Were people angry? Yes
Was the anger directed at the city of Edmonton? No
The comments were clearly frustration with two things: the UCP gov't increasing the education tax so much and people upset about their city property tax assessments being so high and not truly reflective of what they could sell their homes for.
That leads me to believe two things: when people outside Edmonton refer to the government in Edmonton, they clearly mean the UCP.
(It's part of being a capital city).
And, people also seem to understand that because education tax is based on property values, that's why they pay more, although I did still read a couple of comments where people didn't understand that and thought it was unfair Calgary was paying more or that region as a whole (where property values have shot up).
But nowhere did I read our city was benefitting financially with transfer payments.
So while a case can be made (and some have) that the Farkas posts were sloppy or deceitful or manipulating, to a large degree his references to Edmonton were not taken by people outside of our city to be an attack on our city, but clearly on the UCP and in part their own local governments that do the property assessments.
Were people angry? Yes
Was the anger directed at the city of Edmonton? No
The comments were clearly frustration with two things: the UCP gov't increasing the education tax so much and people upset about their city property tax assessments being so high and not truly reflective of what they could sell their homes for.
That leads me to believe two things: when people outside Edmonton refer to the government in Edmonton, they clearly mean the UCP.
(It's part of being a capital city).
And, people also seem to understand that because education tax is based on property values, that's why they pay more, although I did still read a couple of comments where people didn't understand that and thought it was unfair Calgary was paying more or that region as a whole (where property values have shot up).
But nowhere did I read our city was benefitting financially with transfer payments.
So while a case can be made (and some have) that the Farkas posts were sloppy or deceitful or manipulating, to a large degree his references to Edmonton were not taken by people outside of our city to be an attack on our city, but clearly on the UCP and in part their own local governments that do the property assessments.
TAS
Senior Member
Here is my biggest beef in terms of inequitable provincial funding.
Look at how much Edmonton taxpayers fork out for the Yellowhead (2023-26), whereas on the Deerfoot, YYC doesn't have to use any city money for the major expansion there in the hundreds of millions and nothing for regular maintenance and snow clearing. It's all provincial dollars.
I've heard Sohi and Janz talk about this publicly in the past, but why aren't more Edmontonian's upset about this?
I wrote to Dreeshen last year asking why the Deerfoot and Yellowhead aren't treated the same, but I didn't get a reply.
Yes, province and feds have big grants, but we pay yhe most and it's a lot that could be elsewhere.
Look at how much Edmonton taxpayers fork out for the Yellowhead (2023-26), whereas on the Deerfoot, YYC doesn't have to use any city money for the major expansion there in the hundreds of millions and nothing for regular maintenance and snow clearing. It's all provincial dollars.
I've heard Sohi and Janz talk about this publicly in the past, but why aren't more Edmontonian's upset about this?
I wrote to Dreeshen last year asking why the Deerfoot and Yellowhead aren't treated the same, but I didn't get a reply.
Yes, province and feds have big grants, but we pay yhe most and it's a lot that could be elsewhere.
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