TAS
Senior Member
Well noted. I wonder about the costs to make up for that lost volume of work - for instance does that mean a lot of overtime costs? Burnout?
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Well noted. I wonder about the costs to make up for that lost volume of work - for instance does that mean a lot of overtime costs? Burnout?
Greenspace
Senior Member
But why higher than other municipalities?
kcantor
Senior Member
I see our 1/3 of a billion dollar value engineered new rec centre is now only 47% over budget... 
You have to love the new procurement processes and capital project reporting that allows them to still say "90% of our projects are on time and on budget" because a new concrete slab outside of a fire hall gets the same ranking as a new rec centre.
The reporting I'd like to see is "the current cumulative total of all capital project costs divided by the cumulative total of the approved original budgets for those projects".
You have to love the new procurement processes and capital project reporting that allows them to still say "90% of our projects are on time and on budget" because a new concrete slab outside of a fire hall gets the same ranking as a new rec centre.
The reporting I'd like to see is "the current cumulative total of all capital project costs divided by the cumulative total of the approved original budgets for those projects".
thommyjo
Senior Member
Or simply have a category for projects over 30 million and that narrows it down a ton to the ones the most people see/feel the most. (trains, major roads, new buildings)I see our 1/3 of a billion dollar value engineered new rec centre is now only 47% over budget...
You have to love the new procurement processes and capital project reporting that allows them to still say "90% of our projects are on time and on budget" because a new concrete slab outside of a fire hall gets the same ranking as a new rec centre.
The reporting I'd like to see is "the current cumulative total of all capital project costs divided by the cumulative total of the approved original budgets for those projects".
Oilers99
Active Member
A rec centre is going to cost more than Rogers...
David A
Senior Member
Its not just the city, but all governments. It really doesn't help public trust when the administration treats this like a public relations exercise. We could really use a bit more honesty and critical self evaluation.I see our 1/3 of a billion dollar value engineered new rec centre is now only 47% over budget...
You have to love the new procurement processes and capital project reporting that allows them to still say "90% of our projects are on time and on budget" because a new concrete slab outside of a fire hall gets the same ranking as a new rec centre.
The reporting I'd like to see is "the current cumulative total of all capital project costs divided by the cumulative total of the approved original budgets for those projects".
kcantor
Senior Member
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For perspective, there are roughly 160 community league buildings in Edmonton. The city could have given each of them something in the range of $3 million - say $2 million for capital costs and $1 million for an operating endowment fund for less money than it will cost to open the Lewis Farms Rec Centre.
It would also have saved them what I would guess to be something in the range of $8-10 million per year in operating costs.
For perspective, there are roughly 160 community league buildings in Edmonton. The city could have given each of them something in the range of $3 million - say $2 million for capital costs and $1 million for an operating endowment fund for less money than it will cost to open the Lewis Farms Rec Centre.
It would also have saved them what I would guess to be something in the range of $8-10 million per year in operating costs.
policyenthusiast
Senior Member
Edmonton’s mayor is going to bat in yet another attempt by the city to convince the province to stop grocery companies from preventing competitors moving in when they shut down operations.
On Tuesday, council voted 12-1, with Ward tastawiyiniwak Coun. Karen Principe the lone vote against, to direct the mayor “to advocate to the provincial government to enable grocery store competition via the removal of restrictive covenants and exclusivity controls for grocery stores via the Land Titles Act or other legislation.”
Mayor Andrew Knack did not take issue with the direction.
On Tuesday, council voted 12-1, with Ward tastawiyiniwak Coun. Karen Principe the lone vote against, to direct the mayor “to advocate to the provincial government to enable grocery store competition via the removal of restrictive covenants and exclusivity controls for grocery stores via the Land Titles Act or other legislation.”
Mayor Andrew Knack did not take issue with the direction.
Oilers99
Active Member
This is sheer idiocy and our mayor's defense of the budgeting is also moronic.
TAS
Senior Member
This motion from Knack had full support from council - having City Manager pursue opportunities in relation to Edmonton securing national defense investment. Good to see council keeping the foot on the gas here.
Glenco
Senior Member
Please be more concise.