Lilac Park | 20.2m | 6s | Westrich Pacific | J+S Architect

[johnnyboy]

If I had my way, 108st would have been lined with 6-8-10 storey residential and The Parks towers would have been on 106st.

I think most of 108st from 104ave to 99ave is lower profile and that would have looked great throughout.

Don't know that it really matters much, though.

It would've benefited the park's sunlight as well (though I'm unsure how much a single Parks tower is blocking the afternoon/evening sun; two might be a different storey though.)

 

[Mesopotamia]

This looks like something that belongs in the suburbs

 

[TAS]

This looks like something that belongs in the suburbs

It's also something that belongs on the Lotus thread, not Lilac.

 

[Kosy123]

Getting scared they won’t be any brick.

From the renders, the brick mostly seems to be on the north and east side of Lotus Park.

Considering the south side is going to be covered by Lilac Park, this isn't really grounds for panic tbh.

 

[archited]

Too many materials if they follow the renderings (hopefully not)... they can learn as they go... stupid is contagious only if you stop thinking.

 

[ADob]

I really, really, REALLY want someone to explain to me why this continues to be a thing. Why? Why why why? Does anyone actually think it's attractive? I mean I loves me a nice grandma quilt but NOT IN BUILDING FORMAT!!!!!!

 

[Gronk!]

 

[AntonK]

This looks like something that belongs in the suburbs

There’s so many of these 6 floor wood frames going up in the downtown. Anyone have any idea what happened to concrete high rises? We used to build them once upon a time.

 

[Kosy123]

There’s so many of these 6 floor wood frames going up in the downtown. Anyone have any idea what happened to concrete high rises? We used to build them once upon a time.

We technically have 3 that might get started this year.

 

[Glenco]

There’s so many of these 6 floor wood frames going up in the downtown. Anyone have any idea what happened to concrete high rises? We used to build them once upon a time.

Seven floor steel frame

 

[Jhawk]

There’s so many of these 6 floor wood frames going up in the downtown. Anyone have any idea what happened to concrete high rises? We used to build them once upon a time.

Quick answer, the dollars don’t work very easily. Of all cities over 500k (with the exception of Winnipeg) Edmonton is the toughest pencil out high rises. The price of housing is quite low compared to the others. They were getting built in previous years when the interest rate was really low, and if the rate stays low or continues to drop, you’ll see some more get built.
I mean, Edmonton will still see high-rise’s getting built, just not as many as the other cities.
One thing about cities like Edmonton and Winnipeg is, you can get a good sized house for 400k. It’s tough to get people interested in high-rise apartments.

 

[archited]

^ And I suppose you believe that "feeding the beast" will make the beast go away. As long as developers "believe" that building the stick-frame uglies is a future-proof way of making money in the residential building game they will have fallen into the same trap that led to the capitulation to the walk-up phenomenon of the 60s/70s that so colored the then-called Oliver District adjacent to downtown E. There is no sin in building low rise accommodation that is artful and integral to the fabric of the City, but for gawd's sake at least make an effort!

 

[Tropical]

^ And I suppose you believe that "feeding the beast" will make the beast go away. As long as developers "believe" that building the stick-frame uglies is a future-proof way of making money in the residential building game they will have fallen into the same trap that led to the capitulation to the walk-up phenomenon of the 60s/70s that so colored the then-called Oliver District adjacent to downtown E. There is no sin in building low rise accommodation that is artful and integral to the fabric of the City, but for gawd's sake at least make an effort!

I spent 10 years of my life living in these walkups. My quality of life was great - I could afford my rent, my housing more than suited my needs, and I was able to live car-free close to groceries, bars, cafes, transit... you name it.

I don't see how more housing on this scale is a problem.

 

[David A]

I spent 10 years of my life living in these walkups. My quality of life was great - I could afford my rent, my housing more than suited my needs, and I was able to live car-free close to groceries, bars, cafes, transit... you name it.

I don't see how more housing on this scale is a problem.

This is the trap that some other cities have fallen into, by making development too restrictive housing has become unaffordable. Beautiful buildings on the outside, but perhaps not well kept up inside and very expensive.

However, I would like to believe there is some middle ground, where at least some more effort is made to build nicer buildings and avoid crap.

 

[AntonK]

Quick answer, the dollars don’t work very easily. Of all cities over 500k (with the exception of Winnipeg) Edmonton is the toughest pencil out high rises. The price of housing is quite low compared to the others. They were getting built in previous years when the interest rate was really low, and if the rate stays low or continues to drop, you’ll see some more get built.
I mean, Edmonton will still see high-rise’s getting built, just not as many as the other cities.
One thing about cities like Edmonton and Winnipeg is, you can get a good sized house for 400k. It’s tough to get people interested in high-rise apartments.

Thanks, that makes sense. It always comes down to dollars and cents. With Edmonton’s high population growth I would have expected a high rise boom like Calgary and Ottawa have been having.