Gronk!
Senior Member
Enough pussyfooting! It's the Delta Hotel, right? They want to relocate from the dumpster fire known as ECC.
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Enough pussyfooting! It's the Delta Hotel, right? They want to relocate from the dumpster fire known as ECC.
Offworld
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And that would be the first step toward a proper demolition of the entire ECC West project. That is the ONLY way to go. All that adaptive re-use claptrap talk is just a set of handcuffs. Wipe the slate clean.
David A
Senior Member
I fear the risk is we could end up just replacing one vacant lot with another or end up with two instead of just one in yet another attempt to wipe the slate clean.
If we should have learned anything from this debacle and various others in the past, it is we are too quick here to tear down things based on pie in the sky proposals that do not go ahead.
If we should have learned anything from this debacle and various others in the past, it is we are too quick here to tear down things based on pie in the sky proposals that do not go ahead.
archited
Senior Member
The building is pretty substantial. Tearing down to start over is not always the best answer.
TagYEG
New Member
Something similar to Mackenzie Tower/Alt Hotel, that was proposed on 104 ST, but make its height somewhere between Manulife and Legends would be my ideal fit. It would have to be rentals, as per the market.
.crystalised.
Active Member
Here's hoping, though I doubt the current owner really intends to sell; this is just a stunt to look good on advice from their lawyer's PR campaign. I hate to be a downer, but I suspect that any serious offers would be reasonable, and yet those reasonable offers will be refused...
My expectations are tempered for the time being, but it's nice to see the buzz in this thread lately. Lots of great ideas here. That's part of what makes Edmonton interesting and unique - it's a city that's always been full of potential. The resulting inspiration from this constant state of possibility is endlessly appealing.
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David A
Senior Member
Perhaps, but surely someone who has some vision and more resources can afford the price. It does not seem that high.
Potential is like an undeveloped lot in a high profile location, it is great but something needs to happen with it eventually to be realized otherwise it is not worth a lot.
Offworld
Active Member
Pie in the sky were the plans to re-use City Centre in the first place.
ADob
Active Member
This lot is doing nothing to improve his reputation. I honestly don't know why he even wants to keep it (or why he's in the development business in the first place, since he doesn't seem particularly good at it).
inclusion
Active Member
Montreal has several hotels set up like this now. I don't see why it wouldn't work here.
_urbanite
Senior Member
Edmonton and Montreal are not even close to an apples to apples comparison. Much more limited demand for hotel rooms here vs Montreal, and you can't charge as much for a room here as you can there.
inclusion
Active Member
I meant the rentals side of the equation.
David A
Senior Member
Of course, the very first important difference is Montreal is 3x the size of Edmonton. However, also just compare St. Catherine's street in downtown Montreal which remains a vibrant retail shopping destination to Jasper Ave.
When I went to Montreal in the early fall, I actually bought some clothes in nice stores in this area and looked at items in several others . We do not even have any of these stores in downtown Edmonton.
BASE
Active Member
I get your point but the Helm and Henry Singer would probably like a word.
David A
Senior Member
I have no issue with either of those here. The places I went to were major national/international retailers with various price points, but I think lower than the two here and also there were many of them, not just two.
For visitors going to Montreal, downtown is a destination because it has many things to do, including very good shopping. People go downtown there because they want to as opposed to here where people visiting mostly come to downtown because they have to.