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Lilac Park | 20.2m | 6s | Westrich Pacific | J+S Architect

Corner CRU on Lotus, but after speaking with neighbouring retail owners, seeing the plight of others in the area to not add more and the opportunity for ground floor units that some prefer, it simply made sense. Live/work can be explored if folks wish, but the idea is to support MacLab's retail bays and push people to Jasper to backstop ALL of that struggling retail. Given the nice BLVD, it makes a lot of sense to have a more residential area versus commercial. There will be options and opportunities in the area, but our focus is residential for most of it.
Totally agree, we don't need CRU's on every damn corner. I get annoyed when people complain about lack of CRU's in new developments. Their critique is always that it will create 'dead' zones. You know what's more dead and uninviting than residential lined streets??? Strips of empty CRU's sitting empty for years and years.......

One of my favourite neighbourhoods to stroll through in Vancouver is Yaletown because of the townhome treelined streets with towers above. To the same extent, Grandin is probably my favourite hood in Edmonton to walk through. Peaceful, calm, green, yet dense.
 
I wonder too if mid rises adjacent to the park with higher buildings behind will create a nice layering visually but also for some sun impact.
The Shift towers would sadly be the best place for taller towers, with the BPs and parking lot, and Parks phase 2 actually being ideal for midrises. So we might get the reverse of what’s best for shadows haha
 
Totally agree, we don't need CRU's on every damn corner. I get annoyed when people complain about lack of CRU's in new developments. Their critique is always that it will create 'dead' zones. You know what's more dead and uninviting than residential lined streets??? Strips of empty CRU's sitting empty for years and years.......

One of my favourite neighbourhoods to stroll through in Vancouver is Yaletown because of the townhome treelined streets with towers above. To the same extent, Grandin is probably my favourite hood in Edmonton to walk through. Peaceful, calm, green, yet dense.
Exactly, we have so many empty CRU's downtown, we sure as heck don't need more and there is more demand for residential space, so lets proceed accordingly for now.

Our planning and development needs to be responsive to the current environment, not just based on the world as it may have been years ago, or they wish it to be.
 
I like the idea of ground floor units being potentially convertible for commercial or HBB. Have them built as residential for now but keep certain provisions in place for a potential businesses down the line.
 
^ Even better than that would have been a research effort (certainly there has been enough time) into what Retail and Hospitality elements would be an asset to the neighborhood and how design could have accommodated that research putting into effect solutions for very specific businesses -- this is seldom done in Edmonton; it is clearly done elsewhere. For example we know that a major new structure will come on scene (NorQuest) directly across 102nd Ave. North from this site that will have a major impact on student population numbers in the area. That is also the case with MacU a few blocks north and the new Business Faculty structure now well under construction there. A heads up developer would look at trends that are not far off their own completion schedule, looking to consider what might be useful social infrastructure to meet expanding needs instead of simply writing off Retail and to a lesser extent Hospitality as a dead horse. Some examples include so-called Grab-n-Go Markets, Bookstores (especially those that expand on alternatives to curricula plus other items related to campus life), Food & Grocery Vendors based on locally available food stuffs, stores offering "hip" apparel brands that attract a more youth-oriented market, tech stores, diverse eateries, and "Social" hospitality (coffee shops, tea houses and pubs). An effort has to be made. One axiom in both Retail and Hospitality is that the more choice and variety in an area the better the overall scene and the greater the overall success -- currently the retail (such as it is on Jasper Avenue and in the area generally) is weak -- it needs more like businesses not less. For example, look at what is currently happening at the University of Alberta and how well the recently added businesses are being received.
 
^ Even better than that would have been a research effort (certainly there has been enough time) into what Retail and Hospitality elements would be an asset to the neighborhood and how design could have accommodated that research putting into effect solutions for very specific businesses -- this is seldom done in Edmonton; it is clearly done elsewhere. For example we know that a major new structure will come on scene (NorQuest) directly across 102nd Ave. North from this site that will have a major impact on student population numbers in the area. That is also the case with MacU a few blocks north and the new Business Faculty structure now well under construction there. A heads up developer would look at trends that are not far off their own completion schedule, looking to consider what might be useful social infrastructure to meet expanding needs instead of simply writing off Retail and to a lesser extent Hospitality as a dead horse. Some examples include so-called Grab-n-Go Markets, Bookstores (especially those that expand on alternatives to curricula plus other items related to campus life), Food & Grocery Vendors based on locally available food stuffs, stores offering "hip" apparel brands that attract a more youth-oriented market, tech stores, diverse eateries, and "Social" hospitality (coffee shops, tea houses and pubs). An effort has to be made. One axiom in both Retail and Hospitality is that the more choice and variety in an area the better the overall scene and the greater the overall success -- currently the retail (such as it is on Jasper Avenue and in the area generally) is weak -- it needs more like businesses not less. For example, look at what is currently happening at the University of Alberta and how well the recently added businesses are being received.
If you walk down a block or two 109 Street from here and look at what is around, you actually already see some of exactly what you described, so yes this makes total sense.

NorQuest and MacEwan already have a big impact on the commercial activity in the area and as they continue to grow/expand they will probably have even more.
 
The Shift towers would sadly be the best place for taller towers, with the BPs and parking lot, and Parks phase 2 actually being ideal for midrises. So we might get the reverse of what’s best for shadows haha
A bit selfishly happy if The Shift isn't as tall as it won't shade my community garden plot as much lol.
 

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