Tropical
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This only makes sense if you ignore the negative wellness impacts of living in a building that functioned as a remand. Not only that, a remand where other members of your nation and relations experienced severe abuse.
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Coprolite
Active Member
Yeah. Your average homeless shelter is undignified and dangerous enough as is, to the point where the big reason we have such an issue with folks sleeping rough is that they are trying very hard to stay out of shelters.
"Just put them in the old, leaky, mold infested jail" only makes sense from the point of view that this level of poverty is something that needs to be punished, and thank fucking god it's finally being torn down so weirdos can stop pointing at it and suggesting this absolutely monstrous idea.
bodsbods9090
Senior Member
I get a laugh out of statements like this.
There's a reason a lot of police live outside of where they are stationed. Some of you are smart enough to know why without taking shots at them from time to time.
Avenuer
Senior Member
What's the reason?
bodsbods9090
Senior Member
Safety for their family.
I have a few friends who are EPS and that's the reason both of them don't live anywhere in the city. And a lot of their colleagues say the same.
Barnaby
Active Member
Even EPS members will tell you what a bad job they're doing.
Avenuer
Senior Member
How would someone that is arrested or has an issue with a specific cop find out where they live? You’d think the city they’re sworn to protect would be safe enough for themselves to live in.
bodsbods9090
Senior Member
I'm just telling you what I've been told by some members.
constance_chlore
Active Member
As yes, big city cop, a profession noted for its honesty and integrity...
David A
Senior Member
Maybe some people really believe that bs, but there are no border walls or checkpoints to stop criminals going to St. Albert or Sherwood Park if they are determined to find someone.
I feel it is mostly a justification made by those who move to to these other suburban communities and unfortunately, it makes them even more out of touch with the community they are working in.
thommyjo
Senior Member
As someone with multiple friends and family in EPS, I somewhat empathize that it could feel scary to arrest someone on stony plain road one day, and then later that week they walk past your house in grovenor as you play out front with your kids. That’s spooky.
At the same time, windemere, where the taxes still support Edmonton, exists. As does chapelle, summerside, etc. or you can work southeast and still live in grovenor/glenora. Or work southside and live downtown, etc.
The St Albert stuff is literally just “white flight” vibes when you actually talk to them. The city is gross, filled with “poors”, the schools are “better” in St. Albert (I.e. less kids with high needs or from more complex homes…), the city is “dangerous” (funny, how about you fix it??), etc etc.
I get that cops working and living/shopping/hanging in the exact same community can be hard. But there’s a hundred options before St. Albert. And if you do live there, stop acting so condescending towards the city you’re doing a bad job of improving/protecting who pays your bills.
edm13
Active Member
I grew up on the north side and I chose to buy my place on the north side. But man sometimes it’s tough to not just want to give up and move out of here. I don’t think it’s a white thing, at least not for me anyways. I just want to be around other people who value family and just being decent normal people… I see a lot of degenerate behaviors, both by white and non white people. It’s just sad because all my friends grew up on the north side and all turned into successful people. It makes me sad that I have to wonder if sending my kid to the same schools I went to would result in a worse experience or outcome for them.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Yeah, not really a “white” thing as exclusively these days. That’s more just a callback to the early days of suburbanization and the reasoning behind it that was often blanketed racism.
But yeah, it is true that if your kids go to Ross Shep vs Scona, there’s definitely higher risks for involvement in shady stuff and lower academic excellence. Hard to not want to further the problem, while also balancing what’s best for your kids.
It’s why private schools can start a dangerous spiral too.
Coprolite
Active Member
Well that's a bit dramatic. Much of Edmonton used to be a lot worse. Peak violent crime in the core was in the 1990s. It's a pretty tame city in the grand scheme of things, despite the quivering of our various local professional hysterics.
Coprolite
Active Member
Sooo, given that your typical EPS officer is an absolute Charlie Foxtrot when it comes to handling firearms and they can bring their sidearms home with them and (per your explanation) they're also a bit jumpy about their environments, I'm thinking their families have other things to worry about.