Massey Ferguson Building Redevelopment | ?m | 6s | Rise Real Estate | WZMH

[The_Cat]

Edmonton isn’t perfect, but it’s nice to see that Edmonton residents will stand up for progressive values.

 

[David A]

What social problems does Edmonton have these 2 cities don’t? Or better yet except for marketing what have they done better?

No one looks down on Edmonton quite like people who live here. You’ve got folks in St. Albert and Fort Saskatchewan who wear it like a badge of honour that they never have to go downtown or even into the city. Then there are others who complain that Edmonton is boring, yet never show up to any festivals/ events. At the end of the day, this is a marketing problem. Edmonton doesn’t have issues that other cities don’t also have.

Some of the problems are more obvious and visible here with Edmonton having several prisons and being the dumping ground for many of Alberta's social problems, like other western Canadian cities that serve the northern parts of their provinces. Unlike us, Vancouver in particular excels at having nice vertical gated communities downtown and keeping many of the poor in one small ghetto area that they try hard to keep visitors away from.

However even the most self absorbed central Canadian actually knows of Edmonton and has some idea where we are, although they may think we are the size of Regina. They probably have no clue about our sometime smug suburban areas.

 

[NicolBolas]

^ Well put... and to add there are people on this very site who regularly disparage the City. That fact baffles me -- why waste your time here if every place "not Edmonton" is better than?

It's okay to want better for the city you live in, then accept the let's be honest with ourselves shitty status quo that we have now. I'm focused on the new buildings going up in Edmonton, most of them are budget architecture at best and will serve only to ghettoize more areas in the city in 5 to 10 years down the road, there is of course some exceptions to that, but they are the exception.

The city needs at the very least a minimum architectural design standard so we don't have garbage proposals like Massey Ferguson.

 

[ADob]

I think you can love your city and celebrate its strengths while also wanting it to improve. And I think there's a difference between (most of us on here) bitching about the poorly-designed, ugly-as-shit buildings that are popping up all over the map and just bitching about how shitty our city is. So I agree, we need to demand better!

 

[archited]

The city needs at the very least a minimum architectural design standard so we don't have garbage proposals like Massey Ferguson.

100%. And neither was I thinking of you @NicolBolas when I made my "Ed-Neg" comment. I encourage people to speak loudly in reference to poorly conceived Architectural Proposals -- there is no valid excuse for any of them being built. On the other hand people who excuse the inexcusable because it increases density or because it obliterates surface parking need to shake their collective heads twice -- we don't need insufferable architecture to take the place of either.

 

[David A]

I think you can love your city and celebrate its strengths while also wanting it to improve. And I think there's a difference between (most of us on here) bitching about the poorly-designed, ugly-as-shit buildings that are popping up all over the map and just bitching about how shitty our city is. So I agree, we need to demand better!

In addition to generalized statements about ugly buildings, we probably need to name and shame a number of them starting with the worst, which arguably is here.

 

[EtoV]

To be fair both Vancouver and Calgary are arguably better ran cities in general. Edmonton goes from one 4 year term of mismanagement to the next, this also contributes to the race to the bottom for architecture and infrastructure.

Anyone who calls Vancouver well run has never lived in Vancouver

 

[IanO]

EDC package link:

EDC Formal Submission.pdf

drive.google.com

Given the project’s scale, development is proposed to occur in two phases:
• North Phase: The existing surface parking lot is proposed to be redeveloped with the new student housing project.
• South Phase: The formally designated historic façade of the 1947 Massey Ferguson showroom will be preserved and incorporated into the new student housing project.


The project consists of four six-storey mid-rise residential buildings, organized around two landscaped private courtyards and a central pedestrian public pathway. This mid-block connection enhances permeability and reinforces Edmonton’s traditional orthogonal street grid, while the building massing respects existing block structures, urban rhythms, and scale. The development includes ± 696 units distributed across the four buildings, which frame a series of open-air amenity spaces.

 

[Kosy123]

Hot take: I dont mind the north side buildings, it's the south one I want to condemn for heresy

 

[archited]

If my mother were alive I would not be writing home to tell her about this. The flag is the most exciting element in this presentation. What a waste of a downtown City block!

 

[constance_chlore]

This does look like a student residence, maybe for a mid-tier state university in a depressing town in Ohio.

 

[JNO1]

This is nice....for Nisku.

 

[David A]

If my mother were alive I would not be writing home to tell her about this. The flag is the most exciting element in this presentation. What a waste of a downtown City block!

It is pretty bad when you have to add a flag in to either improve it, distract from it, or maybe both. I feel the old saying patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel has some relevance here.

 

[ADob]

It looks like a sad high school built in the era where children weren't allowed to have access to too much sunlight. Those tiny little windows just make the whole thing even worse.

 

[HelpEd]

The design looks fairly basic. Still, if construction starts mid-year or next year, it should add more people and energy to the downtown core.