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not to say that erin o'toole was the right person to lead the conservative party - and certainly based on today's actions by the party's elected mp's the party no longer felt he was the right person - but if the conservative party can't find its way back to embracing the "progressive" elements that were once a proud equal mainstay of the party, they will leave themselves resigned to fighting it out with bernier's ppc to represent the country's right-wing populist fringe elements and never again form government. and from my perspective both the party and the country will be the worse for their making that choice.
 

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not to say that erin o'toole was the right person to lead the conservative party - and certainly based on today's actions by the party's elected mp's the party no longer felt he was the right person - but if the conservative party can't find its way back to embracing the "progressive" elements that were once a proud equal mainstay of the party, they will leave themselves resigned to fighting it out with bernier's ppc to represent the country's right-wing populist fringe elements and never again form government. and from my perspective both the party and the country will be the worse for their making that choice.
Although I am a registered Liberal, I believe having a CPC that is balanced and closer to the centre, instead of holding hands with the PPC, is important for democracy. One-party systems rarely turn out for the best, even if intentions are good initially, and I hope that the CPC can come out of this closer to the Progressive Conservatives than to the PPC.
 

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Liberal and NDP commit to maintain the at least the current number (and an undefined constant number ensuring over representation) of seats for Quebec in the Houae of Commons despite the requirement to reduce it by one according to the Electoral Commission … meaning Quebec residents will have a preferred status in Canada while residents in all other Provinces and Territorys will have proportionally less representation and our votes are worth less. The language used is this “We commit to ensuring that Quebec’s number of seats in the House of Commons remains constant”. The last line in the webpage before asking for donations. Screw the Liberals and NDP for not ensuring equitable representation based on population. https://www.ndp.ca/news/delivering-canadians-now
 

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Liberal and NDP commit to maintain the at least the current number (and an undefined constant number ensuring over representation) of seats for Quebec in the House of Commons despite the requirement to reduce it by one according to the Electoral Commission … meaning Quebec residents will have a preferred status in Canada while residents in all other Provinces and Territorys will have proportionally less representation and our votes are worth less. The language used is this “We commit to ensuring that Quebec’s number of seats in the House of Commons remains constant”. The last line in the webpage before asking for donations. Screw the Liberals and NDP for not ensuring equitable representation based on population.
 

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Liberal and NDP commit to maintain the at least the current number (and an undefined constant number ensuring over representation) of seats for Quebec in the House of Commons despite the requirement to reduce it by one according to the Electoral Commission … meaning Quebec residents will have a preferred status in Canada while residents in all other Provinces and Territorys will have proportionally less representation and our votes are worth less. The language used is this “We commit to ensuring that Quebec’s number of seats in the House of Commons remains constant”. The last line in the webpage before asking for donations. Screw the Liberals and NDP for not ensuring equitable representation based on population.
I posted in the Alberta politics thread, but this is more appropriate here.
This is a little simplistic, as the whole representativeness in Parliament is a complicated subject. The Maritimes AND the Territories, as a whole, for example, are over represented. If you are concerned with provinces and territories losing representativeness, start there, as this "extra" seat in Quebec is the least of our worries on this front. All in all, this is but another unfolding of the lifelong beef between Alberta and Quebec, that boils down to Oil and pipelines, not fair democratic representation (never was and never will be).

The Westminster System we have in Canada (and the UK) is somewhat detrimental to a fair balance of power, considering the uselessness of the Senate.

Should the Senate be formed by elected officials and the seats distributed in a manner similar to what happens in the US, Brazil and other dual-chamber parliaments, with an equal amount is senators for each province, it would be easier to deal with the political backlash from changing the proportions in the House of Commons.

You say "screw the Liberals and the NDP" for keeping the number of seats in Quebec, but you need to be really naive to believe they would endanger their own votes to benefit the prairie provinces and, indirectly, the CPC. The irony is that the CPC hasn't been great for the Prairies either, as they see us as an automatic win and have been focusing their efforts in making gains in Ontario and Quebec. I'll bet you any kind of money that had the CPC been in power now, the same thing would've happened, as they'd use it to signal Quebecers that they "stand with them" too.

Absolutely NO POLITICAL PARTY will EVER reduce the number is seats of any province at any time in history, because it is political suicide.
They might fight to increase the number of seats where it's convenient for them, but it is really, really naive to believe anyone would ever do what you expect them to, no matter what the projections, laws, bylaws, commissions or whatever say.
 

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