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Payd1964 said:
You need to get out more. There is 100,000 people living in Heritage Valley right now and a majority of the Edmontons growth is on the south side and will continue to do so into the future.
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I do enjoy the “get out more” comment. Literally grew up in windemere. I get the need for a hospital down there.

We’re also doubling our population inside the henday. So increased capacity at existing hospitals is good.

A new hospital is definitely needed. But if timeline and funding are going to mean no new capacity for 15 years, that’s an issue. If we can get a few hundreds more beds in the interim, that’s helpful.

Devon and Leduc both have hospitals, and grey nuns serves the SE henday area. And the UofA and Royal Alex are both accessible by high frequency transit from the south. It’s not like there are 0 options. Of course we need a south hospital, this might be stupid politicking, but I like the idea of also expanding existing facilities.
 
thommyjo said:
I do enjoy the “get out more” comment. Literally grew up in windemere. I get the need for a hospital down there.

We’re also doubling our population inside the henday. So increased capacity at existing hospitals is good.

A new hospital is definitely needed. But if timeline and funding are going to mean no new capacity for 15 years, that’s an issue. If we can get a few hundreds more beds in the interim, that’s helpful.

Devon and Leduc both have hospitals, and grey nuns serves the SE henday area. And the UofA and Royal Alex are both accessible by high frequency transit from the south. It’s not like there are 0 options. Of course we need a south hospital, this might be stupid politicking, but I like the idea of also expanding existing facilities.
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It's easy to be optimistic about anything when we haven't had any meaningful capacity changes in 37 years. I'd argue we need both projects to proceed. Additionally, these new 700 beds won't be completed tomorrow. Only $2M has been committed for planning. We will see how far this project progresses by the end of their mandate. They cancelled one project that was far along to begin another project that will have to go through the same planning stages. I also wonder how much this will cost once they incur capital costs, and what the overall timeline will be.

Anyone who thinks this isn't political needs to take the rose coloured glasses off.
 
Anything that is built in Edmonton is at least 5 years away. Unlike schools you cannot do design/build. That said the Design for the South West and Stollery has been started and stopped numerous times now. Both of those hospitals would have been finished by now if the work continued from the time it was initially mentioned.
 
thommyjo said:
I do enjoy the “get out more” comment. Literally grew up in windemere. I get the need for a hospital down there.

We’re also doubling our population inside the henday. So increased capacity at existing hospitals is good.

A new hospital is definitely needed. But if timeline and funding are going to mean no new capacity for 15 years, that’s an issue. If we can get a few hundreds more beds in the interim, that’s helpful.

Devon and Leduc both have hospitals, and grey nuns serves the SE henday area. And the UofA and Royal Alex are both accessible by high frequency transit from the south. It’s not like there are 0 options. Of course we need a south hospital, this might be stupid politicking, but I like the idea of also expanding existing facilities.
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So to put the 100,000 in context, that is already equal to the population of Red Deer without a hospital and that number will continue to grow quickly.

Yes, there are hospitals in other parts of the city and nearby communities, but if you are having a cardiac event sorry you are not taking transit. Its not just distance, in the city traveling on congested roads can take time.
 
I just don't like it to be so political. There should be some kind of open conversation how many hospital beds should be per population/area. And then how much money we need to make that build and to run those facilities. And then we would probably see that we need to pay healthcare tax as I don't see oil royalties going up anytime soon if ever. And then put that for vote. Instead of a political party cherry picking winners. On the other hand, I don't see anyone in teachers picket shouting "increase our property taxes", wouldn't that sound unpopular.. so at the end of the day nothing will be solved without some sort of a tax reform. Even provincial %5 GST would solve many problems but again, that's unpopular. So basically people get what they want even if they not always like the outcome. I believe NDP and UCP just pulling the same rope on different ends that is just too short. Of course, you can argue that UCP gave tax breaks to corporations but idea was to attract new businesses and increase hiring that would bring more tax revenue but that by large hasn't happened. At least not in a diversification sense which we need the most and are decade behind. Anyway, my prediction is that eventually we will get a tax reform just to keep services at the current level. That's a broad perspective but it does come down indirectly to the healthcare funding and hospitals.
 
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Friendly reminder that Tyler Shandro is on the board of Covenant Health.
 
Edmontonium said:
I just don't like it to be so political. There should be some kind of open conversation how many hospital beds should be per population/area. And then how much money we need to make that build and to run those facilities. And then we would probably see that we need to pay healthcare tax as I don't see oil royalties going up anytime soon if ever. And then put that for vote. Instead of a political party cherry picking winners. On the other hand, I don't see anyone in teachers picket shouting "increase our property taxes", wouldn't that sound unpopular.. so at the end of the day nothing will be solved without some sort of a tax reform. Even provincial %5 GST would solve many problems but again, that's unpopular. So basically people get what they want even if they not always like the outcome. I believe NDP and UCP just pulling the same rope on different ends that is just too short. Of course, you can argue that UCP gave tax breaks to corporations but idea was to attract new businesses and increase hiring that would bring more tax revenue but that by large hasn't happened. At least not in a diversification sense which we need the most and are decade behind. Anyway, my prediction is that eventually we will get a tax reform just to keep services at the current level. That's a broad perspective but it does come down indirectly to the healthcare funding and hospitals.
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In the end unfortunately decisions about large projects seem to have a political element at least under the current UCP government. We have watched as new hospitals have been built in Calgary, Grande Prairie, Fort Sask and Red Deer. Not to say that these places don't need them too, but with no new hospitals in Edmonton since the late 1980's and a population that has doubled there seems to be quite a need here to, which I feel was finally recognized in 2018 when this project was put forward However, unfortunately the government changed shortly after that and it was then put on hold/cancelled.

It is up to the government to decide how to fund this, they just need to need to do it somehow. However, those lower corporate tax rates don't seem to be helping much while large companies like Imperial Oil lay off people despite being profitable and move jobs to the US.
 
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