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David A

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The NHL ain't leaving Calgary. It's a strategic market with a significant corporate base and ties the western teams together.

QC won't be a reality under Bettman, period.
Well then perhaps Bettman will have to make a few trips to Calgary and try strong arm everyone, like he did elsewhere. I don't think the NHL will be very happy with having a team in a over 40 year old arena. Their patience is not unlimited.

There are other cities that would be glad to have NHL teams and would make things much easier for them. I think when the big bills to maintain or upgrade the Saddledome come up it might prompt some change of heart.
 

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Strong arm? Absolutely. But I think that is it.

I don't think moving is an option they would consider at this point. Look how hard they are fighting to keep the Coyotes in AZ despite the fact that Glendale is literally trying to kick the hockey club out of their building.

With the revenues lost from the pandemic, the other 31 owners know how valuable it is to keep markets like Calgary that consistently feed into the pot that subsides the non-hockey markets that are pulling from it.
 

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I give Gary Bettman full credit for his part in the Rogers Place deal. He acted as a mediator between Mayor Stephen Mandel and Daryl Katz when the latter was kicking tires in Seattle. I could see Bettman doing likewise with Calgary and the Flames.
 

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“We have always believed that Calgary needs a new Event Centre,” CSEC president John Bean said in a statement on Tuesday. “However, under the current circumstances we do not see a path forward that would create a viable partnership with the city, which is essential for a new Event Centre to become a reality.”

According to Kenney, he spoke with several CEOs of “major Canadian companies” to promote investment in Alberta, and highlighted “all the great new amenities” being built in Calgary as part of his pitch including the events centre, the modernization of the Glenbow Museum and upgrades to Arts Commons.

“I do think that’s part of the broader package of an effort to get Calgary’s mojo back,” Kenney said.


Not sure if this is the right thread but on the topic of Calgary's arena I would love to know when the last time was / if Kenney and the The United Calgary Party has ever talked to Canadian CEOs about all the cool things going on in Edmonton while trying to boost Edmonton's mojo. Who's fault is this? Is this Edmonton's fault for not aggressively marketing itself as the place to invest and be in Alberta? How does Calgary continue to get marketed as the end all be all place in Alberta? Calgary and Alberta are basically synonymous when it comes to marketing and promotion in the government's eyes. Quite frustrating reading this quote from Kenney and its certainly not the first from him and his party.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8488592/j...ry-arena-deal/
 

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I didn't hear about this before, does anyone know how legit GBAC is? I can't find any third-party reviews about them. I wonder if it's just an industry scam (like 'sustainable' seafood certifications), or more trustworthy like LEED.


 

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“We have always believed that Calgary needs a new Event Centre,” CSEC president John Bean said in a statement on Tuesday. “However, under the current circumstances we do not see a path forward that would create a viable partnership with the city, which is essential for a new Event Centre to become a reality.”

According to Kenney, he spoke with several CEOs of “major Canadian companies” to promote investment in Alberta, and highlighted “all the great new amenities” being built in Calgary as part of his pitch including the events centre, the modernization of the Glenbow Museum and upgrades to Arts Commons.

“I do think that’s part of the broader package of an effort to get Calgary’s mojo back,” Kenney said.


Not sure if this is the right thread but on the topic of Calgary's arena I would love to know when the last time was / if Kenney and the The United Calgary Party has ever talked to Canadian CEOs about all the cool things going on in Edmonton while trying to boost Edmonton's mojo. Who's fault is this? Is this Edmonton's fault for not aggressively marketing itself as the place to invest and be in Alberta? How does Calgary continue to get marketed as the end all be all place in Alberta? Calgary and Alberta are basically synonymous when it comes to marketing and promotion in the government's eyes. Quite frustrating reading this quote from Kenney and its certainly not the first from him and his party.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8488592/j...ry-arena-deal/
Oh, whose fault is it that Kenney does not talk about all the cool things going on Edmonton? Presumably, he choose what he talks about, so I think that answers that question.

At times I think we still have battered city syndrome when it comes to Alberta's various Conservative regimes ... maybe if don't provoke them, they will be nicer to us. Nope.

We can increase our marketing by a milllion percent, but Kenney will only say flattering things about those he hopes will vote for him and he will continue to ignore the rest.
 

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The city needs to market itself. We can’t rely on the province or whatever else to market us. It hasn’t happened and I just don’t see it happening. Explore Edmonton has been doing a great job these past years and will do more with the CEO change. However, what’s still missing is us as a city. No matter who or what promotes the city as a destination. The people here always seem to stand guard in formation and repel any compliment the city gets with ignorant miseducated opinions on the city they’re too embarrassed to call home.
 

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Maybe that’s the issue though. We can’t keep ignoring it. I think we need to turn our focus from not only bringing tourism here but also changing Edmontonians views on Edmonton. How do you get more people to go downtown? How do you get more people to even consider downtown as a destination point for the night? Give people reasons to go. Sometimes it’s harder to change older suburban parents opinions on this stuff but easier with younger generations. Instagram accounts like yegwave are filled with comment sections of people hating on the city. How about start there. Get accounts like that to promote our downtown as well. Maybe have those $600000 balls on the side of the road moved to downtown. They’re already famous and known around the city. The main problem is that they’re on the side of a road useless. How about move them to Churchill square. With Churchill being where all the lines are going to meet. The opening of the valley line will bring more traffic to that area and generate more photos being taken and posted online. That’s how people find out about these things. Manchester square is a good example. Nothing is there, but people still show up for the picture. I’ve been asking my friends to checkout the ice district for years now and they’ve been ignoring me, until the ice district sign went up and they started seeing pictures posted around. Now they seem more up to it. It’s not just restaurants, pubs and an arena district that make a downtown attractive. It’s also what’s in between the walk going to the pub, restaurant and arena. Small things are what adds culture and spice to a city and what separates it from others. Towers and arenas are nice, but everyone has towers and arenas.
 

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Maybe that’s the issue though. We can’t keep ignoring it. I think we need to turn our focus from not only bringing tourism here but also changing Edmontonians views on Edmonton. How do you get more people to go downtown? How do you get more people to even consider downtown as a destination point for the night? Give people reasons to go. Sometimes it’s harder to change older suburban parents opinions on this stuff but easier with younger generations. Instagram accounts like yegwave are filled with comment sections of people hating on the city. How about start there. Get accounts like that to promote our downtown as well. Maybe have those $600000 balls on the side of the road moved to downtown. They’re already famous and known around the city. The main problem is that they’re on the side of a road useless. How about move them to Churchill square. With Churchill being where all the lines are going to meet. The opening of the valley line will bring more traffic to that area and generate more photos being taken and posted online. That’s how people find out about these things. Manchester square is a good example. Nothing is there, but people still show up for the picture. I’ve been asking my friends to checkout the ice district for years now and they’ve been ignoring me, until the ice district sign went up and they started seeing pictures posted around. Now they seem more up to it. It’s not just restaurants, pubs and an arena district that make a downtown attractive. It’s also what’s in between the walk going to the pub, restaurant and arena. Small things are what adds culture and spice to a city and what separates it from others. Towers and arenas are nice, but everyone has towers and arenas.
Yegwave is tough. But every city has that. 6ixbuzz in Toronto and 604.tv in Vancouver. People always hate on their own city.

But it does hurt our image. Idk the solutions though. Momentum is hard to build. Ice district helped, but that's died down. Crashed ice, fifa, world juniors, concerts etc help a bunch.
 

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Let them work on those over the next 20 years while we work on developing/attracting investment and companies with high growth potential that can fill or build some new towers to prop up our Downtown.
Apologies as not to derail this thread but in response to your comment I am curious who this "we" is that is going to be focusing on attracting investment to the city? So far in every interview or speech I have seen from Sohi his main focus seems to be extremely heavy on social issues. Not at all saying that it should not be but I have yet to hear him say one thing about competing / attracting / focusing on growing or attracting companies and investment to Edmonton, especially as we continue to climb out of the pandemic. Is it Edmonton Global? If so, I can only think of two larger public investment or company announcements (Polykar and Air Products) that have been tied to Edmonton Global since their inception in 2017. Again, I am just interested to hear who it will be that is attracting the investment and companies you are referring to cause it certainly will not be the province lobbying on our behalf as per my post #829.
 

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Apologies as not to derail this thread but in response to your comment I am curious who this "we" is that is going to be focusing on attracting investment to the city? So far in every interview or speech I have seen from Sohi his main focus seems to be extremely heavy on social issues. Not at all saying that it should not be but I have yet to hear him say one thing about competing / attracting / focusing on growing or attracting companies and investment to Edmonton, especially as we continue to climb out of the pandemic. Is it Edmonton Global? If so, I can only think of two larger public investment or company announcements (Polykar and Air Products) that have been tied to Edmonton Global since their inception in 2017. Again, I am just interested to hear who it will be that is attracting the investment and companies you are referring to cause it certainly will not be the province lobbying on our behalf as per my post #829.

On this point, last month, Calgary's mayor was in Texas for World petroleum conference along with reps from provincial government making the case for Alberta regarding future technologies and low carbon strategies.


Was somebody there from the city of Edmonton? I didn't read anything that there was an Edmonton official there, just Calgary people (municipal and provincial).

In the election, Sohi talked about putting in a funding program similar to Calgary's to attract companies to come to Edmonton or expand their existing operations here.

Hopefully work is beginning to get that established and activated.
 

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