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Not that know of, but from folks who know hockey better than myself it rests with how this team continues to be 'managed'.
 

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Probably cause the team is consistently bad or underachieving and has only seen one instance of success (a small amount of it at that) in the last 15 years. They had a lot of potential for this offseason and so far haven't done very well, looks fairly bleak.

Supposedly Hyman to Edmonton will be announced tomorrow... hearing figures of 5.5-6 million at 8 years... that wouldn't be great. I love Hyman he's a great player, but him getting a larger contract than Nuge for a guy who has never had 50 points, has some injury concerns and is mostly a middle 6 forward and not a bonafide top 6 winger is an iffy signing. He would be like 37 when that contract ends... likely going to include a NMC as well. We are technically in win now mode however the offseason Holland is having so far is making me think our window is now open again in 2024, in which case signing Hyman to an 8 year deal would be even more atrocious because by my estimate he only has like 4 years of good hockey left and if we aren't contending for half of that then ye... rough.
 

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There are options for the Oilers still despite a couple poor moves in a row. Sounds like today Hyman's UFA rights will be traded here. A 5.5-6mx8y deal is already in place don't mind the cap hit but the term stings. Larsson going sucks, he was no doubt our best shutdown guy but this clears some space if we want to add in FA (Which we absolutely need to now). Sounds like there's interest for both Kassian and Koskinen hopefully we can trick a team into giving up assets for them. Some D options for us: Savard, Hakanpaa, Montour, sounds like Oilers are circling back on Barrie which is unfortunate. Forwards: Tatar, Hyman is all but guaranteed to be coming here, Hall (unlikely if we sign Hyman), Saad, Wennberg, Bunting.Goalies: Smith is coming back 2yx2m, With Koskinen ideally being traded we can add a guy like Bernier to go 1A1B with Smith.
 

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Kahun was slightly disappointing last year considering who he played with much of the season (Draisaitl). But I think he could still be a solid third line player, would have liked to see him back but ultimately he's replaceable in FA. Khaira is the one I'm a little more worried about losing. He has been very good on the PK for the past several years and there have been flashes where he's showed an ability to be a middle-top 6 forward. His biggest issue has always been consistency, He's an average player who happens to be a PK specialist most of the time but occasionally will go on runs where he looks like a proper top 6 player. This year the injury bug really hit him hard with multiple concussions. I would have liked to hold on to Jujhar he's only 26 and his penalty killing is a valuable asset to this team. His ability to play both centre and wing is also helpful. I could envision someone picking him up and him becoming a very solid player and making us look like fools (similar to Carter Verhaeghe last season with the Panthers). But I could just as equally see him remaining around where he is right now.
 

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Don't mind losing Khaira at all, losing Kahun for nothing is a bit rough because hes a solid middle 6 winger and keeping Draisaitl happy is always a good thing but at the end of the day neither helped our team win last year (while they had redeeming qualities like Khairas penalty killing they also had flaws in their game that ultimately made them more of liabilities than contributing factors and they are easily replaceable players) so I'm fine with letting them go.
 

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I am so looking forward to binary comments on the draft from @Edmontonian and @erudyk_29. I have my own thoughts but I would like to hear yours. I think the two-year extension to Mike Smith's contract is fine. Goalies are notoriously "late" in development and so the Smith thing doesn't bother me in the least (and I think he likes playing in Edmonton -- not to mention that he displays real talent in the GT position).
 

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It was a draft where anyone could be anything, with that being said I think it was mediocre for the Oilers

Before I go on to give my take on it I do want to say that we have a very solid amateur scouting department over here, who in the last few years have been one of the only bright spots of this team. They obviously know information we don't and they are one of the few things on this team I trust... with that being said

WHY WOULD YOU TRADE PICK 20

This teams largest need is a goalie, and at pick 20 Jesper Wallstedt, who earlier this year was touted as the next Carey Price or Andrei Vasilevskiy was available. He had fallen since however he ranked in the top 10 for most major prospect rankings and in the top 16 for all major prospect rankings. He is considered to have the potential of a franchise goaltender and from what I've seen, especially in the World Juniors, he doesn't seem any more than 3 years away from NHL ready. Goaltenders in the modern day are more prepared for the NHL than before, which is why drafting a goalie in the first round is becoming completely normal and less risky.

As always the Oilers didn't give anything more than a vague reasoning on why they didn't take Wallstedt, however they pretty much openly stated that had Sebastian Cossa been available they would've taken him. Cossa was ranked 2nd among goalie by most sources, however the Detroit Red Wings picked him over Wallstedt at 15th overall, and we then passed on Wallstedt completely after Cossa was no longer available. Some reports say they fear Wallstedt is already peaking in his play, which I think is ridiculous considering he is just 18 years of age. Others believe Wallstedt has attitude issues and from our experience with Nail Yakupov I think its safe to say we wouldn't touch attitude issues with a 10 foot pole, which is respectable however we can't even be certain if that is truly the case as like I mentioned us fans don't have the resources. I was so shocked that they passed up on him and traded pick #20 for picks 22 and 90 that when the Minnesota Wild took Wallstedt with the pick we traded them I simply shut off my TV.

We have tons of forwards, our core already consists of McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge, Yamo, Puljujarvi and we are now about to sign Hyman to a 7 or 8 year deal. Not to mention we already have guys like Holloway and Lavoie in the pipeline as well as McLeod who played his first NHL games last season. Benson is likely to make the jump next year and we drafted all forwards last year including Carter Savoie and Tyler Tulio, 2 more promising young kids. As for defensemen Nurse seems to be our key guy, Bear is still young and of course there is Bouchard and Broberg, both top 10 picks from 2018 and 2019. Dmitri Samarukov is also looking good. Everyone knows we need a goalie, most media members and fans were shocked that Edmonton passed up on the opportunity to draft Wallstedt, something nobody thought we would have the luxury to do ahead of the draft. Ilya Konovalov I have a lot of faith in and Stuart Skinner had a great year in the AHL but having a guy who truly projects as elite in the pipeline is something I felt like we needed... apparently the guys running the show thought otherwise.

Enough about who we didn't draft, let's move on to who we did.

With pick 22 the Edmonton Oilers selected Xavier Bourgault from Shawinigan in the QMJHL. He put up 40 points in 29 games this season (including 20 goals) and he's a good pickup at 22. He projects as a top 6 forward and I think he'll reach his potential and be a good player for us, if we didn't have the opportunity to select Wallstedt I would've really liked this pick but I'm still sulking over what we could've had 🤣

By moving down to pick 22 we also received pick 90, which we used to select defensemen Luca Münzenberger from Germany, which is one of the greatest names ever. Besides his name there isnt anything cool about him, but he seems like a steady defensive defensemen who will probably take around 4 years before he is ready for the show. Was he worth passing up on Wallstedt? Nope!

With pick 116 the Oilers selected forward Jake Chiasson from the Brandon Wheat Kings of the WHL, lets hope he is the only Chiasson in our organization heading into next season. He saw a lot of progression over the last few years and I think it was a good selection overall.

With pick 180 we selected forward Matvei Petrov from Moscow of the MHL. I believe this our best pick of the draft, Russians always falls due to the "Russian factor" and if he is willing to come over he will look a hell of a lot better than a 6th round pick.

With pick 186 we selected forward Shane Lachance from Boston of the NCDC. He is an underager (17 years old) and I believe he has a good LaChance of making the NHL some day.

With pick 212 we selected defensemen Max Wanner from the Moosejaw Warriors of the WHL. I don't think he is going to be anything, I would've preffered we picked Florian Elias, a kid with talent from the DEL. Every team passed on Florian because he is undersized and is signed in Germany until 2024 however you need random guys with skill to come over from out of nowhere and help your team win when your are competing for cups, Jake Guentzel of the Pittsburgh Penguins is the first name that comes to mind. I think taking that high risk high reward would've been a better idea than going with a safe pick in the 7th and final round.

Overall I give us a grade of a C in this draft, and with the trades and signings we've made before this draft at the date July 24th I give our offseason a D in my grading. The draft can be a B- and the offseason can be a C- if you're less pessimistic than I am 🤣
 

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I do like Goalie Mike's attitude in his Journal interview. Ageism aside, he has something to prove and I believe he will do it.
 

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Getzlaf is still a decent player, would improve our bottom 6. Also has that cup winning veteran experience the Oilers are paying Duncan Keith 5.5 million for! Anything under 2 million for Getzlaf isn't bad, if he wants to come here for league minimum that would be lovely.

Us possibly about to re-sign Tyson Barrie... thats where we should be asking, really Edmonton?
 

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I have work today unfortunately so I can't cover Free Agency until tonight, but we've already signed Tyson Barrie to 3x4.5 (3 years, 4.5 million annual average salary).

People are speculating us signing Barrie means a Bear trade is likely... if thats the case then wow this franchise never fails to surprise me.
 

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