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I don't know why you would send the message like that but yes Connor McDavid has tested positive for Covid-19, Derek Ryan also tested positive.

Both were held out of practice today, they are getting more tests done to make sure it wasn't a false positive, and will likely miss tomorrows game in Toronto.

The team is on another 4 game losing streak, Dave Tippett is personally winless in his last 10. He needs to go, now. We had this conversation in these forums when the team was winning, now we are losing, my opinion remains the same, he is not the right coach for the Oilers.

Also I'm not sure if I can start threads because I've never done it before but its now 2022! Happy (belated) new year everyone lets make a new thread for our Oilers... or maybe just change the name of this one and use it for the rest of eternity 🤣
 

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Playing off McJesus. A bad joke.

Coaching is part of it, as is a lack of true leadership, accountability and work ethic. In my opinion that lands on Drai and I don't see it cascading down and through the team.

We have a very average 5 on 5 and seem to get pushed off the puck more than most teams.

We need our mojo back and quick.
 

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Playing off McJesus. A bad joke.

Coaching is part of it, as is a lack of true leadership, accountability and work ethic. In my opinion that lands on Drai and I don't see it cascading down and through the team.

We have a very average 5 on 5 and seem to get pushed off the puck more than most teams.

We need our mojo back and quick.
Draisaitl does look lazy a lot of the time, December is an awful month for him personally just like it is for the Oilers as a team. To say this lands on him though is ridiculous and exactly why we don't deserve to have him. The poor guy plays way too many minutes, here is his average ice time per game in the last 4 seasons (including this one) and where they rank in the entire NHL among forwards; 2018-19 (22:35, 2nd), 2019-20 (22:37, 1st), 2020-21 (22:11, 3rd), 2021-22 (22:52, 1st). He's 6'3 and weighs 208 lbs, thats a lot of mass to lug up and down the ice on a team who plays a rush system, not to mention he plays in all situations (5 on 5, PP, PK, 3 on 3, etc), I'll give him a pass for being too tired sometimes. Nobody seemed bothered by his play when he put up 20 goals and 20 assists in 19 games which is insanity and was really the reason we were winning so many games at the start. The man is also underpaid for what he brings (8.5 million a year is a lot don't get me wrong but he's worth around 11-12 easily). He's one of the best players in the world living in McDavid's shadow, he's already under appreciated around the league, for Oiler fans to be putting blame on him is awful. Even if that wasn't your intention with that comment it's still worth mentioning because I've seen blame being thrown at him and McDavid and I feel bad for the both of them. They deserve a lot better than this joke of a management group we have, Leon's in the 8th year of his career and Connor in his 7th, they've officially made the playoffs twice and the furthest they've been is round 2, thats shameful, an embarrassment really.

He also just scored his league leading 26th goal while I was typing this so there ya go.

Now for the factors you mentioned. "True leadership" is hard to have when you're a young player and you've never had a solid coaching staff, besides the leadership on the team seems fine, we've seen McDavid be an active leader in game, we have that good ol' veteran presence in Duncan Keith and Mike Smith, probably their only real value at this point, Nurse and Hyman are also well known to be good leaders, and while Nuge and Drai are quiet they seem to be popular in the locker room. It's hard to be accountable when your coach throws you under the bus, like Dave Tippett did to Mikko Koskinen. Drai had an awful December in 2019-20 too and you know what he did, he said to the cameras "I know I've been sh*t lately". How is the bottom 6 even supposed to be accountable when they have close to no responsibility or ice time under Dave Tippett. Ryan McLeod has been on fire lately, he had his first career multi-point game against New Jersey and overall played well, you know how much ice time he got in that game which went into OT... 8 minutes... and we lost. As far as work ethic goes I agree they haven't been playing hard hockey, but some games they also work really really hard, let me think which 2-3 games they did that... oh yes the ones where Dave Tippett was out due to covid protocol. If work ethic is a problem with an individual, then that individual has a poor work ethic, if it's an issue with an entire team... then it's a coaching problem.

Dave Tippett was a mediocre coach who had a system I did not like, but at the very least he was confident in himself and in his team, and the Oilers were winning games, not playoff games, but they were winning games.

Now Dave Tippett is a coach who has lost 10 games in a row, he is desperate and it's showing, he's lost his confidence and he's not even mediocre anymore he's just straight up bad. He lost control of his locker room, this team needs a coaching change now, as much as we hate the vicious coaching cycle the Oilers have gone through, I think it's really warranted this time.

With that being said I'll never be a fan who cheers for a loss for "the greater good", I do hope Dave Tippett and the boys get the win tonight with an injury and covid riddled team.
 

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A much better overall effort, tenacity, fight and shots, but some late sloppy play, a few bad bounces and they get another L.

Smith was good; had bad luck on two of them.
 

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Is goaltending the solution/salvation?

 

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Is goaltending the solution/salvation?

is the glass half full? i'm not sure if goaltending is the solution/salvation but not having good, timely goaltending is certainly an insurmountable problem.

solving the goaltending problem won't solve the others (as koskinen rightfully noted, he can't score goals) but without solving the goaltending problem will solving the others will be immaterial.
 

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A much better overall effort, tenacity, fight and shots, but some late sloppy play, a few bad bounces and they get another L.

Smith was good; had bad luck on two of them.
How can you say Smith was good? He was clearly culpable on two of the goals and he was out performed by Campbell by a clear margin.
 

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Disagree. He played well and had a few bad bounces with one that he should have probably had.
 

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They need a goalie tandem. Sure Tippett isn't doing a lot, but Smith-Koskinen isn't gonna win you many games. By next season I hope that it's gonna be Skinner-somebody new(maybe Francouz from Colorado)
 
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Currently reading Messier's book 'No One Wins Alone'. I am of the opinion the he needs to fly up, hold a book club for a week and set things straight/in the right direction. Honestly, if folks on the team read even the first half of this book we would be a much better team.
 

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