Valley Line LRT | TransEd/Marigold | City of Edmonton

Time to bring back red light cameras and photo radar. Oh wait UCP have more or less banned them.
 
I get that people are making stupid decisions which lead to these issues but to protect from these disruptions I truly think crossing arms should be installed. Incidents still happen but sure seems like so many less with the high floor lrt intersections.
 
Glenco said:
Time to bring back red light cameras and photo radar. Oh wait UCP have more or less banned them.
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swing and a miss, merely going back to what photo radar was first sold to us as, in school zones, playgrounds etc. besides how many of the these recent collisions were in a former photo radar location?
 
yeggator said:
There’s this new advocacy group called Edmonton Transit Riders, which has spoken in City Council in the past about things like fare gates. I’ll be checking them out at their launch party in October and seeing if there will be opportunities to voice our desire for boom gates at intersections south of Davies Station. Maybe they’ll give it a platform in front of City Hall.
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how come toronto with it's street cars don't have these problems?

it's a driver issue and if the driver is already running a red or ignoring posted signage, what will a mere crossing arm do to stop it?

Impound the vehicle, cancel the insurance, cancel the licences and into the cells...
 
Habibfazil said:
how come toronto with it's street cars don't have these problems?

it's a driver issue and if the driver is already running a red or ignoring posted signage, what will a mere crossing arm do to stop it?

Impound the vehicle, cancel the insurance, cancel the licences and into the cells...
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Oh don’t get me wrong, I fully believe in exacting maximum punishment on stupid drivers for crashing into the trains. But like a lot of crimes, punishment alone is unlikely to undo the damage, so might as well try to mitigate it with crossing gates too. And moreover, it would enable faster speeds up to Avonmore Station.
 
Still there.

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Also was wonderring why they didn't run trains all the way to Davies Station instead of Bonnie Doon and then do a bus bridge to Mill Woods from there. It's either because there are no switches between Bonnie Doon and 51 Ave and/or they aren't able to de-energize Whitemud Dr witout de-energizing Davies Station.
 
Habibfazil said:
swing and a miss, merely going back to what photo radar was first sold to us as, in school zones, playgrounds etc. besides how many of the these recent collisions were in a former photo radar location?
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So trouble spots that didn’t exist before cannot be targeted now because they didn’t exist before?😳
 
Damn Edmonton... Don't know what's more absurd, the total predictability of these collisions or the cope posts...

Seriously, were bad drivers not a 'known known' when this line was planned?

Plenty of talk about crime prevention via environmental design with transit projects, I guess the planners forgot to think about collision prevention too :(
 
fromyeg said:
I think we also need crossing arms or some other sort of physical intervention at many of the VLSE crossings. Anything to prevent people from driving into the trains. We will never reach a point where everyone on the road is a competent, attentive driver at all times.

It doesn’t have to be at all crossings, but definitely should be at some crossings. (Yes, the semi may just have blown through the crossing arms in this instance.)

(I also emailed Michael Janz the same suggestion. I’m trying to continue matching my voicing of opinions on SRC with voicing my opinions to those who could potentially have some ability to institute change. Haha.)
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Gronk! said:
The "No right turn on red" signage needs to be displayed more prominently.
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Crossing arms and signage are the infrastructure equivalent of a strongly worded letter. If you want a collision proof transit network, then it has to be built as such.

Not saying the drivers involved in these incidents shouldn't be held responsible for their actions, but the piss poor planners should be eating their share of the blame too.

Banish them to the sidewalk replacement division, seems like that would be a good fit for their scope of vision...
 
fromyeg said:
I think we also need crossing arms or some other sort of physical intervention at many of the VLSE crossings. Anything to prevent people from driving into the trains. We will never reach a point where everyone on the road is a competent, attentive driver at all times.

It doesn’t have to be at all crossings, but definitely should be at some crossings. (Yes, the semi may just have blown through the crossing arms in this instance.)

(I also emailed Michael Janz the same suggestion. I’m trying to continue matching my voicing of opinions on SRC with voicing my opinions to those who could potentially have some ability to institute change. Haha.)
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I think we need a multifaceted approach to this.

This intersection at Whitemud, the one at Roper Road, and the future AH ramp intersections all need less ignorable warnings to stop such as either a crossing gate or a much larger no right on red sign, double red stoplights and flashing train crossing signage.

While the flashing train crossing signage will probably go over like a lead balloon at the 82/Whyte Ave crossings and other future problematic areas on the West leg, the rest is applicable. The addition of speed bumps before the pedestrian crossing in the turning lane might be the answer for non truck route & high pedestrian use zones. Rumble strips on the approach to train crossings might also be helpful though I am fully aware of the problems that both rumble strips and speed bumps cause with winter plowing.

I strongly agree with @Habibfazil & Maclac that we need better driver education, and that testing needs to go back to full provincial control especially for anything beyond a class 5. Though I am of the opinion that retesting at intervals should be required for all drivers’ licenses, none of this “lifetime” crap.
 
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